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'''Use https://gitlab.com/ryanwhite/webmail-systems pull requests. - The page is maintained by Ryan says the FSF.'''
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Issue for https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems. The proper FSF email address to send this issue to is: [mailto:resources@fsf.org resources@fsf.org]
 
Issue for https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems. The proper FSF email address to send this issue to is: [mailto:resources@fsf.org resources@fsf.org]
  
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==Recommended==
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==Todo==
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This table could be added to the "Recommended section in https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems
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===Urgent===
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* Add this to https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems under "Not Recommended": Apple [https://www.icloud.com/ iCloud] (@icloud.com. Old emails: @[https://me.com/ me.com], @[http://mac.com/ mac.com]<!-- not https:// -->) -- iCloud account creation requires Apple devices (either an iOS device or a Mac).
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* Change "@msn.com" to "@[https://www.msn.com/ msn.com]"
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* Sort Microsoft Outlook.com alphabetically in the list
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* Add "Tor operated: [http://grrmailb3fxpjbwm.onion/ TorGuerrillaMail] under "These disposable email services have been verified to work without proprietary JavaScript:"
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===OpenMailBox===
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* https://www.openmailbox.org/why-we-were-down
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* https://www.reddit.com/r/openmailbox/comments/9ffqap/what_is_happening_with_openmailbox/
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* https://www.techmansworld.com/2017/08/openmailbox-removes-imap-support-for.html
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** IMAP status seems to be ok at https://www.openmailbox.org/service-state though. But Icedove cannot connect as described below.
  
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{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1" style="font-size:smaller"
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====Cannot create account====
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The "Create my account" opens the CAPTCHA each time I click on it no mattter if I've finished the CAPTCHA several times.
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! Webmail
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! Clearnet
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====Broken Thunderbird settings====
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! Tor service
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[I have emailed this issue to the OpenMailBox team 2019-03-20]
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! [https://bitmessage.ch/ Bitmessage.ch]<br />(https://bitmessage.ch/<br />requires Tor Browser!)
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| No
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It's not possible to add OpenMailBox accounts in Thunderbird that displays this warning message:
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[http://bitmailendavkbec.onion/roundcube http://bitmailendavkbec.onion/roundcube] (Roundcube)<br />
 
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[http://bitmailendavkbec.onion/squirrelmail http://bitmailendavkbec.onion/squirrelmail] (SquirrelMail)
 
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! Kolab Now
 
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| [https://kolabnow.com/ https://kolabnow.com]
 
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| No
 
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! Mail2Tor
 
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| No
 
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| [http://mail2tor2zyjdctd.onion/ http://mail2tor2zyjdctd.onion/] (SquirrelMail)
 
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! [https://openmailbox.org/ OpenMailBox]
 
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| [https://openmailbox.org/ https://openmailbox.org/]
 
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| No
 
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! Posteo
 
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| [https://posteo.de/ https://posteo.de/]
 
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| No
 
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! [https://riseup.net/ Riseup][1]
 
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[https://mail.riseup.net/rc/ https://mail.riseup.net/rc/] (Roundcube)<br />
 
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[https://mail.riseup.net/sm/src/login.php https://mail.riseup.net/sm/src/login.php] (SquirrelMail)
 
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| [http://zsolxunfmbfuq7wf.onion/rc/ http://zsolxunfmbfuq7wf.onion/rc/] (Roundcube)
 
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! Safe-mail.net
 
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| [https://safe-mail.net/ https://safe-mail.net/]
 
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| No
 
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! TorBox
 
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| No
 
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| [http://torbox3uiot6wchz.onion/sm/src/login.php http://torbox3uiot6wchz.onion/sm/src/login.php] (SquirrelMail)
 
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! VFEmail
 
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| [https://vfemail.net/ https://vfemail.net/]
 
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| No
 
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1: "In order to create a Red Account you will need an invite. Obtain an Invite Code from a friend." - https://riseup.net/en/email/settings/mail-accounts#how-do-i-create-an-email-account
 
  
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==Tasks==
 
 
<pre>
 
<pre>
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Thunderbird failed to find the settings for your email account.
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</pre>
  
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<h3>Recommended</h3>
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I've seen this error message that also made it impossible to add an account:
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<p>Some of these services are gratis, but that's a separate issue.
 
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  Recall that "free software" refers to freedom, not price.
 
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    <li><a href="https://openmailbox.org">OpenMailBox</a>: <strong>Runs explicitly on free software</strong>. Service started in June 2013.</li>
 
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    <li><a href="https://posteo.de">Posteo</a>: <strong>Fully compliant with LibreJS's standards, but a bug in LibreJS causes the site to not work when the plugin is enabled. Does not work without JS</strong>. Credit card payments do not work.</li>
 
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    <li><a href="https://riseup.net">Riseup</a>: Geared more toward activists - they have a manual screening process. Signup works with LibreJS. SquirrelMail (works without JS) can be used to access webmail, POP/IMAP clients can also be used. To access Squirrel mail, access the online mail client page, and select the "old webmail(squirrelmail only)" link.</li>
 
  
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    <li>Some services will let you sign up and sign in without non-free JavaScript, and use IMAP/POP3 from a desktop program, but have broken webmail:
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<pre>
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Certificate Status
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      <li><a href="https://kolabnow.com">Kolab Now</a>: Swiss based paid service focused on ensuring your privacy. Highly resistant to PRISM and similar programs. Runs on free software. Currently becoming LibreJS compliant.</li>
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This site attempts to identify itself with invalid information.
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      <li><a href="https://mailnesia.com">Mailnesia</a>.</li>
 
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      <li><a href="https://safe-mail.net">Safe-mail.net</a>.</li>
 
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      <li><a href="https://vfemail.net">VFEmail</a> (uses google syndication, and captcha - both non-free).</li>
 
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    </ul>
 
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</li>
 
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</ul></p>
 
  
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<p>For privacy purposes, you may sometimes want to use a disposable email address for one or a small number of messages. These disposable email services have been verified to work without proprietary JavaScript:</p>
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Wrong Site
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The certificate belongs to a different site, which could mean that someone is trying to impersonate this site.
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  <li><a href="https://10minutemail.com/">10 Minute Email</a></li>
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</pre>
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  <li><a href="https://guerrillamail.com/">Guerrilla Mail</a></li>
 
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  <li><a href="https://spamgourmet.com/">Spam Gourmet</a></li>
 
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It's not possible to use the "Confirm Security Exception" button.
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  To ask about a mail service not listed here, or request corrections and updates, please send a mail to: monoverde at riseup dot net : with "Webmail System" in the subject line.
 
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<h3>Not Recommended</h3>
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The "Get Certificate" button reads:
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Systems we've investigated and found wanting.
 
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<ul>
 
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  <li><a href="https://fastmail.fm">FastMail</a>: Sign up, sign in, and webmail all work smoothly. This is a paid service with a 60-day free trial. - UPDATE: was notified that this is not the case.</li>
 
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  <li>Google <a href="https://gmail.com">Gmail</a>: You can sign in and use Gmail without non-free Javascript, but you have to make the account in a special way, through <a href="https://accounts.google.com/NewAccount">https://accounts.google.com/NewAccount</a>. This is an old sign-up form; the currently recommended sign-up form is no good, since it requires nonfree JavaScript code. But Gmail is run by Google and was specifically named as part of the PRISM spying program.</li>
 
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  <li><a href="https://mail.ru">Mail.Ru</a>: Sign up, sign in, and webmail all work smoothly. BEWARE though - it is almost certainly under governmental surveillance, and likely does not respect privacy.</li>
 
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  <li><a href="https://mail.yahoo.com/">Yahoo! Mail</a>: works without JS apparently, but you need JS enabled to create a yahoo account</li>
 
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  <li><a href="https://mail.yandex.com/">Yandex Mail</a>: You can register and sign in with LibreJS enabled, but not send mail in the no-js interface. Also: looks to be Russian based, so almost certainly under surveillance.</li>
 
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  <li>Microsoft <a href="https://outlook.live.com/owa/">Outlook.com</a> (@outlook.com, @live.com. Old emails: @hotmail.com, @msn.com): Requires nonfree Javascript.</li>
 
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<h3>Under Review</h3>
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<pre>
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These are systems either currently under review, or undergoing a status change.
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No Information Available
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Unable to obtain identification status for this site.
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  <li><a href="https://autistici.org">Autistici/Inventati (A/I)</a>: Sign up needs JS. They are working on becoming LibreJS compliant, but no ETA on this yet.<!--Mail sent to info@autistici.org, asking for account. Tried to start again - 2015-03-11 - couldn't use signup form. (2015-05-13) got response from their support people. They're working on making it compliant - but no promise on an ETA--></li>
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</pre>
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  <li><a href="https://hushmail.com">Hushmail</a>: Site doesn't load without JS.<!--2015-01-15 - Site doesn't load without JS. Pretty much all blocked by LibreJS.--></li>
 
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  <li><a href="https://mailbox.org">mailbox.org</a> JS needed to register or use system. <!--20161016--></li>
 
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  <li><a href="https://mailoo.org">Mailoo.org</a>: <strong>Explicitly states it runs on free software. Currently French only - would appreciate help translating</strong>(registrations were closed as of 2017/01/25).</li>
 
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  <li><a href="https://protonmail.ch">ProtonMail</a> JS needed to register or use system.<!--Get a message "JS must be enabled to encrypt and decrypt mail in the browser" (2015-05-12)--></li>
 
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  <li><a href="https://tuffmail.com">Tuffmail</a>: Registration form didn't need Javascript, though an application attempt resulted in no actual account being created. Investigations continue.</li>
 
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  <li><a href="https://tutanota.de">Tutanota</a>: Looks promising - they're working on becoming LibreJS Compliant.<!--2015-05-13 - LibreJS blocks pretty much all scripts on the page - js needed for registration. They do look keen on GPLv3 and security, as well as libre/freedom, so look promising. 2015-05-15 - had reply from hello@tutao.de (Arne) - they're working on it.--></li>
 
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  <li><a href="https://unseen.is">Unseen</a>: Site doesn't load without JS.</li>
 
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<h3>Other</h3>
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I guess we should move OpenMailBox under the "Under Review" section and include the above text to it.
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Systems that don't fit conveniently into any category, but we've reviewed or processed them.
 
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<ul>
 
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  <li><a href="https://mailinabox.email/">Mail-in-a-Box</a> is an easy-to-deploy GNU/Linux mail server so you can run your own webmail</li>
 
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  <li><a href="https://mailcow.email/">mailcow</a> is a docker based GNU/Linux mail server</li>
 
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<!-- ian: i commented closed down stuff,  no one cares. -->
 
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<!-- <li><a href="https://shortmail.com">Shortmail.com</a>: (closed down)</li> -->
 
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  <!-- <li><a href="https://ruggedinbox.com">RuggedInbox.com</a>: (closed down)<strong>Signup is quick and works with LibreJS.</strong> SquirrelMail (works without JS) can be used to access webmail, POP/IMAP clients can also be used.(2016/07/20 - looks defunct. Times out)</li> -->
 
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  <!-- <li><a href="http://sigaint.org/">SIGAINT</a> (closed down) <strong>Requires user to run TOR browser. Usable with LibreJS plugin activated, or JavaScript disabled.</strong> To use POP/IMAP services, users will need to upgrade to (paid) PRO package.</li> -->
 
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Here's the changelog of what the above HTML text does:
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===Riseup===
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Structure the links and add Tor links:
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* [https://riseup.net/ Riseup][1]
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** [https://mail.riseup.net/rc/ Roundcube], [https://mail.riseup.net/sm/src/login.php SquirrelMail]
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** Tor: [http://zsolxunfmbfuq7wf.onion/rc/ Roundcube]. See [https://riseup.net/en/security/network-security/tor#riseups-tor-onion-services Riseups Tor onion services] for email configuration
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1: "In order to create a Red Account you will need an invite. Obtain an Invite Code from a friend." - https://riseup.net/en/email/settings/mail-accounts#how-do-i-create-an-email-account
  
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* Add the official names for each webmail services as a link (use exact names, eg FastMail, not Fastmail):
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==New services==
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** '''Recommended'''
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These new webmail services could be added to the "Recommended section in https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems :
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*** [https://www.openmailbox.org/ OpenMailBox]
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* [https://bitmessage.ch/ Bitmessage.ch] (requires Tor Browser despite not being an .onion address)
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*** [https://posteo.de/ Posteo]
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** Tor: [http://bitmailendavkbec.onion/roundcube Roundcube], [http://bitmailendavkbec.onion/squirrelmail SquirrelMail]
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*** [https://riseup.net/ Riseup]
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* [http://torbox3uiot6wchz.onion/sm/src/login.php TorBox] (SquirrelMail over Tor)
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*** [https://kolabnow.com/ Kolab Now]
 
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*** [https://safe-mail.net/ Safe-mail.net]
 
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** '''Not Recommended'''
 
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*** [https://fastmail.fm/ FastMail]
 
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*** [https://www.gmail.com/ Gmail] (Google)
 
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*** [https://mail.ru/ Mail.Ru]
 
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*** Microsoft Outlook.com [https://outlook.live.com/owa/ Outlook.com] (user@outlook.com). Old emails that still circulates are:
 
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**** Hotmail (user@hotmail.com)
 
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**** Live (user@live.com)
 
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**** MSN (user@msn.com)
 
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*** [https://mail.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Mail]
 
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*** [https://mail.yandex.com/ Yandex Mail]
 
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* Add https for http://www.openmailbox.org/
 
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* Add https for http://www.autistici.org/
 
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* Remove "www." for all entries to make it easier to sort them for the next task.
 
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* Sort all lists alphabetically
 
  
 
==External links==
 
==External links==
 
This link is useful because it lists if the webmails requires JS or not, and it lists privacy issues.
 
This link is useful because it lists if the webmails requires JS or not, and it lists privacy issues.
 
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_webmail_providers#Digital_rights Comparison of webmail providers, digital rights (Wikipedia)]
 
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_webmail_providers#Digital_rights Comparison of webmail providers, digital rights (Wikipedia)]

Latest revision as of 00:23, 8 August 2019

Use https://gitlab.com/ryanwhite/webmail-systems pull requests. - The page is maintained by Ryan says the FSF.

Issue for https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems. The proper FSF email address to send this issue to is: resources@fsf.org

Todo

Urgent

  • Add this to https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems under "Not Recommended": Apple iCloud (@icloud.com. Old emails: @me.com, @mac.com) -- iCloud account creation requires Apple devices (either an iOS device or a Mac).
  • Change "@msn.com" to "@msn.com"
  • Sort Microsoft Outlook.com alphabetically in the list
  • Add "Tor operated: TorGuerrillaMail under "These disposable email services have been verified to work without proprietary JavaScript:"

OpenMailBox

Cannot create account

The "Create my account" opens the CAPTCHA each time I click on it no mattter if I've finished the CAPTCHA several times.

Broken Thunderbird settings

[I have emailed this issue to the OpenMailBox team 2019-03-20]

It's not possible to add OpenMailBox accounts in Thunderbird that displays this warning message: 

Thunderbird failed to find the settings for your email account.

I've seen this error message that also made it impossible to add an account: 

Certificate Status
This site attempts to identify itself with invalid information.

Wrong Site
The certificate belongs to a different site, which could mean that someone is trying to impersonate this site.

It's not possible to use the "Confirm Security Exception" button.

The "Get Certificate" button reads: 

No Information Available
Unable to obtain identification status for this site.

I guess we should move OpenMailBox under the "Under Review" section and include the above text to it.

Riseup

Structure the links and add Tor links:

1: "In order to create a Red Account you will need an invite. Obtain an Invite Code from a friend." - https://riseup.net/en/email/settings/mail-accounts#how-do-i-create-an-email-account

New services

These new webmail services could be added to the "Recommended section in https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems :

External links

This link is useful because it lists if the webmails requires JS or not, and it lists privacy issues.

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