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== Getting started ==
 
== Getting started ==
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* '''[https://my.fsf.org/your-free-software-story Add your free software story here!]'''
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* 7. Trying a free operating system
 
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== Suggested Additional Steps ==
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== Comments and Suggested Additional Steps ==
* Please be sure to number them where you'd like them to go, if you're suggesting another step for the freedom ladder!
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If you're suggesting another step for the freedom ladder! Please be sure to indicate the numerical order where you'd like them to be or be between, before, after, etc.
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* 1. Understanding the importance of addressing digital illiterates - [[User: Imerbp|Imerbp]] ?
 
* 1. Understanding the importance of addressing digital illiterates - [[User: Imerbp|Imerbp]] ?
  
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So to address 1, would it be better to use the term "addressing digital literacy or the digital divide"? "Digital illiterate" is a label that people may not be helpful to the cause.  
 
So to address 1, would it be better to use the term "addressing digital literacy or the digital divide"? "Digital illiterate" is a label that people may not be helpful to the cause.  
  
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Using / advocating freedom / privacy respecting social media is also important here too.  There is no point dumping google chrome for firefox, google search for duckduckgo / searX only to keep using facebook etc.
 
Using / advocating freedom / privacy respecting social media is also important here too.  There is no point dumping google chrome for firefox, google search for duckduckgo / searX only to keep using facebook etc.
  
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> > Compartmentalize personal and non-personal lives, and begin to
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> your accounts to free software. Use separate browsers or even computers when possible.. etc
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i see some important rungs missing, arguably the most important ones
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the top step of the "freedom ladder" now is "try a libre distro" - from my perspective, that is only the beginning of the journey - surely, at the top of that ladder is a desirable destination, or some path toward "use free software exclusively" - i see, at the top of that ladder, a "freedom tree-house", where all the fun stuff happens
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IMHO, the current "freedom ladder" is only the invitation - step 7: "try a libre distro", that is the RSVP - the most interesting and important steps lie beyond that, such as: making sure that the software actually works well and is well-documented, when people arrive at the party
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if the distro is under-staffed (most are), and the favorite programs are broken or buggy, people may not enjoy what they see at the top of that ladder, and may be inclined to step back off it entirely, and not recommend it to anyone else, or worse, to recommend against it
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participation of users is extremely important (arguably essential) - there should more steps like:
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* get involved in the discussions of your favorite free software teams
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* improve the wiki, documentation, or translations of your favorite free software
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* learn how to file useful bug reports (and do not hesitate to file them)
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* be patient, but do not hesitate to nag, if no one fixes the bug
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* learn to hack
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* adopt a package which needs a dedicated maintainer
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* learn about licensing and get involved with the FSD or FSDG
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--[[User:Bill-auger|bill-auger]] ([[User talk:Bill-auger|talk]]) 20:51, 8 June 2023 (EDT)
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== Games ==
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Hello. I think we need a dedicated page or ladder for games. Don't you think so? Because the topic of FOSS games is very vast. If I suggest good FOSS games, the number of games will be like half the total number of softwares recommended. --[[User:Farooqkz|Farooqkz]] ([[User talk:Farooqkz|talk]]) 09:47, 17 August 2024 (EDT)
  
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Latest revision as of 18:50, 17 August 2024

This list is a work in progress and a result of a collaborative effort between the FSF and the free software community. We encourage you to think with us on what this ladder should include, and what else to highlight by leaving notes on the discussion page, and by joining us in the IRC meetings, or by emailing campaigns@fsf.org with your thoughts.

This page is a shared resource, and we encourage others to add to the discussion pages, but it is possible that some entries here may be added by members of the community. We check this resource periodically, and process the comments we receive. We know that others check it too, but it's a wiki, so errors may be added before they're fixed. We encourage you to review licenses and information about resources you add, and to update this page with your findings.

Getting started

The LibrePlanet wiki is a collaborative site and we want you to contribute. The site gives you progressive access to privileges the more you edit. That means you need to make several changes before you can add upload files or make new pages. If you need further assistance, you can email campaigns@fsf.org.

FSF's Steps

This is what we’ve developed so far, feel free to weigh in with their thoughts and suggestions.

  • 1. Understanding nonfree software
  • 2. Finding your own reason to use free software
  • 3. Free replacements and installing your first free program
  • 4. Understanding encryption
  • 5. Mobile phone freedom
  • 6. Learning how to find help
  • 7. Trying a free operating system

Comments and Suggested Additional Steps

If you're suggesting another step for the freedom ladder! Please be sure to indicate the numerical order where you'd like them to be or be between, before, after, etc.

Comments are separated by horizontal lines ('----' in wiki syntax).


  • 1. Understanding the importance of addressing digital illiterates - Imerbp ?

Text below added by Paul Sutton (zleap):

So to address 1, would it be better to use the term "addressing digital literacy or the digital divide"? "Digital illiterate" is a label that people may not be helpful to the cause.

This may need to be 1 or 2: Understanding and addressing the needs of users, how / why people use technology and how we can encourage use of freedom respecting software.

If we are aiming this at people who don't know what free means, we should perhaps use for step 2 - "Free replacements and installing your first free*dom respecting* program we need perhaps really emphasise free as in freedom part of this.

Using / advocating freedom / privacy respecting social media is also important here too. There is no point dumping google chrome for firefox, google search for duckduckgo / searX only to keep using facebook etc.


Suggestion sent in: > > Compartmentalize personal and non-personal lives, and begin to > > transition > your accounts to free software. Use separate browsers or even computers when possible.. etc


i see some important rungs missing, arguably the most important ones

the top step of the "freedom ladder" now is "try a libre distro" - from my perspective, that is only the beginning of the journey - surely, at the top of that ladder is a desirable destination, or some path toward "use free software exclusively" - i see, at the top of that ladder, a "freedom tree-house", where all the fun stuff happens

IMHO, the current "freedom ladder" is only the invitation - step 7: "try a libre distro", that is the RSVP - the most interesting and important steps lie beyond that, such as: making sure that the software actually works well and is well-documented, when people arrive at the party

if the distro is under-staffed (most are), and the favorite programs are broken or buggy, people may not enjoy what they see at the top of that ladder, and may be inclined to step back off it entirely, and not recommend it to anyone else, or worse, to recommend against it

participation of users is extremely important (arguably essential) - there should more steps like:

  • get involved in the discussions of your favorite free software teams
  • improve the wiki, documentation, or translations of your favorite free software
  • learn how to file useful bug reports (and do not hesitate to file them)
  • be patient, but do not hesitate to nag, if no one fixes the bug
  • learn to hack
  • adopt a package which needs a dedicated maintainer
  • learn about licensing and get involved with the FSD or FSDG

--bill-auger (talk) 20:51, 8 June 2023 (EDT)


== Games ==

Hello. I think we need a dedicated page or ladder for games. Don't you think so? Because the topic of FOSS games is very vast. If I suggest good FOSS games, the number of games will be like half the total number of softwares recommended. --Farooqkz (talk) 09:47, 17 August 2024 (EDT)