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== Ideas for getting Free Software across to public in New York. ==
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* Worries about this very process
 
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** You need different approaches for different demographics
 
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*** You cannot use tech strategies to change the minds of non-tech people
 
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*** How do we figure the who-when-where to properly address those demographics?
 
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** We have to define the goals?
 
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*** Is the goal to just advance revenue/membership of FSF?
 
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*** Is the goal to get more people using Free Software?
 
 
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* NYC Subways
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** Deface ads
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*[[Perl User Groups, NYC]]
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*** Put a sticker on windows mobile ads that say... ?
 
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*** Put up same ad with slightly different information, but "look alike". "subvertising", [http://www.rtmark.com/projects/markets/digital RTMark]-style culturejams
 
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** Do car-by-car subway slogan speaking
 
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** Challenges
 
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*** It's illegal (or is it?)
 
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*** Cannot be official
 
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** Fake service advisory posters: PC line out of service in 5 years, due to DRM [http://www.gothamist.com/archives/2005/12/07/mta_hack_make_y.php]
 
  
 
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== Ideas for getting Free Software across to public in NYC ==
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=== Worries About This Process and Having Success Out There ===
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* You need different approaches for different demographics
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** You cannot use tech strategies to change the minds of non-tech people
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** How do we figure the who-when-where to properly address those demographics?
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* We have to define the goals?
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** Is the goal to just advance revenue/membership of FSF?
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** Is the goal to get more people using Free Software?
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=== NYC Subways ===
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* Deface ads
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** Put a sticker on "Do you have Microsoft Office in your pocket?" ads that say: "Is that DRM in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?  www.some-anti-drm-site.org"
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** Put up same ad with slightly different information, but "look alike" (aka "subvertising", [http://www.rtmark.com/projects/markets/digital RTMark]-style culturejams)
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* Fake service advisory posters: PC line out of service in 5 years, due to DRM [http://www.gothamist.com/archives/2005/12/07/mta_hack_make_y.php]
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* Do car-by-car subway slogan speaking
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* Challenges
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** It's illegal (or is it?)
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** Cannot be official
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=== Education for Colleges/Universities ===
 
* FSF could start a small college to develop software?
 
* FSF could start a small college to develop software?
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** Well, ok, that's a huge job, but maybe a course that would help people learn about Free Software development process.
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* Well, ok, that's a huge job, but maybe a course that would help people learn about Free Software development process.
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** But, on the other hand, isn't that too Open-Source-y, not getting the politics out to people.
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* But, on the other hand, isn't that too Open-Source-y, not getting the politics out to people.
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**  Can we show young people and students the community aspects?
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*  Can we show young people and students the community aspects?
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** Ethics have to be part of teaching development methodology
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* Ethics have to be part of teaching development methodology
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** People trying to explore idea of freedom
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* People trying to explore idea of freedom
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** What about a class where two competitive teams try to do a particular job?
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* What about a class where two competitive teams try to do a particular job?
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** Challenges:
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* Challenges:
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*** Finding departments/professors that are receptive.
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** Finding departments/professors that are receptive.
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*** Need people who can develop courseware
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** Need people who can develop courseware
 
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=== Get Everyone Giving Talks and Speeches ===
 
* How many people are off giving talks?  How do we get more people giving talks?
 
* How many people are off giving talks?  How do we get more people giving talks?
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** Could prepared speeches be made available?
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* Could prepared speeches be made available?
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** no, we need tools and people to help them to learn how to speak.
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* no, we need tools and people to help them to learn how to speak.
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** Challenges:
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* Challenges:
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*** We have to make everyone join toastmasters
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** We have to make everyone join toastmasters
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*** Public speaking is fearful for some
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** Public speaking is fearful for some
 
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* Shouldn't we all have automatic links at the end of the email
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=== Automatic Donation Links in Emails ===
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** .signature line that gets automatic general
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* Shouldn't we all have automatic links at the end of the email to get donations?
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** Challenges:
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* .signature line that gets automatically generated
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*** bkuhn mentions having tried it but it didn't work well (only Orion gave)
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* Individuals should be able to give directly to sub-projects that interest them
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* Challenges:
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** bkuhn mentions having tried it but it didn't work well (only Orion gave)
 
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* Should we be like the Mormons/Scientologists/Falun Gung
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=== Should We be Like Religious Groups or Cults? ===
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** "Would you like to be contacted later from someone who will teach you about software freedom?"
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* Should we be like the Mormons/Scientologists/Falun Gung in our methods for spreading the Free Software philosophy?
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** But it's so hard to get across the ideas simply; no one knows or cares about software issues.  This tact is less effective with such people.
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* "Would you like to be contacted later from someone who will teach you about software freedom?"
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** Challenges
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* But it's so hard to get across the ideas simply; no one knows or cares about software issues.  This tact is less effective with such people.
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*** We don't want to be a cult
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* Challenges
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** We don't want to be a cult
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Disclaimer: We in no way intend to group cults and religious groups together in the same category, nor are we stating that religious groups are like cults. We were discussing recruitment tactics used by cults and also ones by religious groups during the same time period in our discussion, and hence, we grouped the two topics under one heading because it was discussed at the same time.
 
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=== Elementary Schools ===
 
* Free Software in the elementary schools
 
* Free Software in the elementary schools
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** Challenges:
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* Challenges:
 
*** Very very hard to do education stuff at K-12 levels, particularly in NYC
 
*** Very very hard to do education stuff at K-12 levels, particularly in NYC
 
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* GNU/Ubuntu
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=== Need a Philosophically Focused GNU/Linux Distribution ===
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* GNUbuntu
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* Would be given out and relates to the cult idea and giving talks/speeches

Latest revision as of 16:13, 22 July 2009

  • Plone NYC Meet others who use Plone an open source content management system that makes it easy to build full-featured websites. Plone adheres to web standards, is cross-platform, multi-lingual, and has a friendly, worldwide community of developers and users. Plone and its underlying technologies Zope & Python can also be used to create web applications, including mobile apps. Gather to share knowledge about Plone, demonstrate Plone websites and network with like-minded individuals. Plone NYC wiki page


Ideas for getting Free Software across to public in NYC

Worries About This Process and Having Success Out There

  • You need different approaches for different demographics
    • You cannot use tech strategies to change the minds of non-tech people
    • How do we figure the who-when-where to properly address those demographics?
  • We have to define the goals?
    • Is the goal to just advance revenue/membership of FSF?
    • Is the goal to get more people using Free Software?

NYC Subways

  • Deface ads
    • Put a sticker on "Do you have Microsoft Office in your pocket?" ads that say: "Is that DRM in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? www.some-anti-drm-site.org"
    • Put up same ad with slightly different information, but "look alike" (aka "subvertising", RTMark-style culturejams)
  • Fake service advisory posters: PC line out of service in 5 years, due to DRM [1]
  • Do car-by-car subway slogan speaking
  • Challenges
    • It's illegal (or is it?)
    • Cannot be official

Education for Colleges/Universities

  • FSF could start a small college to develop software?
  • Well, ok, that's a huge job, but maybe a course that would help people learn about Free Software development process.
  • But, on the other hand, isn't that too Open-Source-y, not getting the politics out to people.
  • Can we show young people and students the community aspects?
  • Ethics have to be part of teaching development methodology
  • People trying to explore idea of freedom
  • What about a class where two competitive teams try to do a particular job?
  • Challenges:
    • Finding departments/professors that are receptive.
    • Need people who can develop courseware

Get Everyone Giving Talks and Speeches

  • How many people are off giving talks? How do we get more people giving talks?
  • Could prepared speeches be made available?
  • no, we need tools and people to help them to learn how to speak.
  • Challenges:
    • We have to make everyone join toastmasters
    • Public speaking is fearful for some

Automatic Donation Links in Emails

  • Shouldn't we all have automatic links at the end of the email to get donations?
  • .signature line that gets automatically generated
  • Individuals should be able to give directly to sub-projects that interest them
  • Challenges:
    • bkuhn mentions having tried it but it didn't work well (only Orion gave)

Should We be Like Religious Groups or Cults?

  • Should we be like the Mormons/Scientologists/Falun Gung in our methods for spreading the Free Software philosophy?
  • "Would you like to be contacted later from someone who will teach you about software freedom?"
  • But it's so hard to get across the ideas simply; no one knows or cares about software issues. This tact is less effective with such people.
  • Challenges
    • We don't want to be a cult

Disclaimer: We in no way intend to group cults and religious groups together in the same category, nor are we stating that religious groups are like cults. We were discussing recruitment tactics used by cults and also ones by religious groups during the same time period in our discussion, and hence, we grouped the two topics under one heading because it was discussed at the same time.

Elementary Schools

  • Free Software in the elementary schools
  • Challenges:
      • Very very hard to do education stuff at K-12 levels, particularly in NYC

Need a Philosophically Focused GNU/Linux Distribution

  • GNUbuntu
  • Would be given out and relates to the cult idea and giving talks/speeches
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