Difference between revisions of "Fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems"

Latest revision as of 00:23, 8 August 2019

Use https://gitlab.com/ryanwhite/webmail-systems pull requests. - The page is maintained by Ryan says the FSF.

Issue for https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems. The proper FSF email address to send this issue to is: resources@fsf.org

Todo

Urgent

Add this to https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems under "Not Recommended": Apple iCloud (@icloud.com. Old emails: @me.com, @mac.com) -- iCloud account creation requires Apple devices (either an iOS device or a Mac).
Change "@msn.com" to "@msn.com"
Sort Microsoft Outlook.com alphabetically in the list
Add "Tor operated: TorGuerrillaMail under "These disposable email services have been verified to work without proprietary JavaScript:"

OpenMailBox

https://www.openmailbox.org/why-we-were-down
https://www.reddit.com/r/openmailbox/comments/9ffqap/what_is_happening_with_openmailbox/
https://www.techmansworld.com/2017/08/openmailbox-removes-imap-support-for.html
- IMAP status seems to be ok at https://www.openmailbox.org/service-state though. But Icedove cannot connect as described below.

Cannot create account

The "Create my account" opens the CAPTCHA each time I click on it no mattter if I've finished the CAPTCHA several times.

Broken Thunderbird settings

[I have emailed this issue to the OpenMailBox team 2019-03-20]

It's not possible to add OpenMailBox accounts in Thunderbird that displays this warning message:

Thunderbird failed to find the settings for your email account.

I've seen this error message that also made it impossible to add an account:

Certificate Status
This site attempts to identify itself with invalid information.

Wrong Site
The certificate belongs to a different site, which could mean that someone is trying to impersonate this site.

It's not possible to use the "Confirm Security Exception" button.

The "Get Certificate" button reads:

No Information Available
Unable to obtain identification status for this site.

I guess we should move OpenMailBox under the "Under Review" section and include the above text to it.

Riseup

Structure the links and add Tor links:

Riseup[1]
- Roundcube, SquirrelMail
- Tor: Roundcube. See Riseups Tor onion services for email configuration

1: "In order to create a Red Account you will need an invite. Obtain an Invite Code from a friend." - https://riseup.net/en/email/settings/mail-accounts#how-do-i-create-an-email-account

New services

These new webmail services could be added to the "Recommended section in https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems :

Bitmessage.ch (requires Tor Browser despite not being an .onion address)
- Tor: Roundcube, SquirrelMail
TorBox (SquirrelMail over Tor)

External links

This link is useful because it lists if the webmails requires JS or not, and it lists privacy issues.

Comparison of webmail providers, digital rights (Wikipedia)

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+'''Use https://gitlab.com/ryanwhite/webmail-systems pull requests. - The page is maintained by Ryan says the FSF.'''
 Issue for https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems. The proper FSF email address to send this issue to is: [mailto:resources@fsf.org resources@fsf.org]
-==Recommended==
+==Todo==
-This table could be added to the "Recommended section in https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems
+===Urgent===
+* Add this to https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems under "Not Recommended": Apple [https://www.icloud.com/ iCloud] (@icloud.com. Old emails: @[https://me.com/ me.com], @[http://mac.com/ mac.com]<!-- not https:// -->) -- iCloud account creation requires Apple devices (either an iOS device or a Mac).
+* Change "@msn.com" to "@[https://www.msn.com/ msn.com]"
+* Sort Microsoft Outlook.com alphabetically in the list
+* Add "Tor operated: [http://grrmailb3fxpjbwm.onion/ TorGuerrillaMail] under "These disposable email services have been verified to work without proprietary JavaScript:"
+===OpenMailBox===
+* https://www.openmailbox.org/why-we-were-down
+* https://www.reddit.com/r/openmailbox/comments/9ffqap/what_is_happening_with_openmailbox/
+* https://www.techmansworld.com/2017/08/openmailbox-removes-imap-support-for.html
+** IMAP status seems to be ok at https://www.openmailbox.org/service-state though. But Icedove cannot connect as described below.
+====Cannot create account====
+The "Create my account" opens the CAPTCHA each time I click on it no mattter if I've finished the CAPTCHA several times.
+====Broken Thunderbird settings====
+[I have emailed this issue to the OpenMailBox team 2019-03-20]
+It's not possible to add OpenMailBox accounts in Thunderbird that displays this warning message:
+<pre>
+Thunderbird failed to find the settings for your email account.
+</pre>
+I've seen this error message that also made it impossible to add an account:
+<pre>
+Certificate Status
+This site attempts to identify itself with invalid information.
+Wrong Site
+The certificate belongs to a different site, which could mean that someone is trying to impersonate this site.
+</pre>
+It's not possible to use the "Confirm Security Exception" button.
+The "Get Certificate" button reads:
+<pre>
+No Information Available
+Unable to obtain identification status for this site.
+</pre>
+I guess we should move OpenMailBox under the "Under Review" section and include the above text to it.
-{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1" style="font-size:smaller"
+===Riseup===
-|-
+Structure the links and add Tor links:
-! Webmail
+* [https://riseup.net/ Riseup][1]
-! Clearnet
+** [https://mail.riseup.net/rc/ Roundcube], [https://mail.riseup.net/sm/src/login.php SquirrelMail]
-! Tor service
+** Tor: [http://zsolxunfmbfuq7wf.onion/rc/ Roundcube]. See [https://riseup.net/en/security/network-security/tor#riseups-tor-onion-services Riseups Tor onion services] for email configuration
-|-
-! [https://bitmessage.ch/ Bitmessage.ch]<br />(https://bitmessage.ch/<br />requires Tor Browser!)
-| No
-|
-[http://bitmailendavkbec.onion/roundcube http://bitmailendavkbec.onion/roundcube] (Roundcube)<br />
-[http://bitmailendavkbec.onion/squirrelmail http://bitmailendavkbec.onion/squirrelmail] (SquirrelMail)
-|-
-! Kolab Now
-| [https://kolabnow.com/ https://kolabnow.com]
-| No
-|-
-! Mail2Tor
-| No
-| [http://mail2tor2zyjdctd.onion/ http://mail2tor2zyjdctd.onion/] (SquirrelMail)
-|-
-! [https://openmailbox.org/ OpenMailBox]
-| [https://openmailbox.org/ https://openmailbox.org/]
-| No
-|-
-! Posteo
-| [https://posteo.de/ https://posteo.de/]
-| No
-|-
-! [https://riseup.net/ Riseup][1]
-|
-[https://mail.riseup.net/rc/ https://mail.riseup.net/rc/] (Roundcube)<br />
-[https://mail.riseup.net/sm/src/login.php https://mail.riseup.net/sm/src/login.php] (SquirrelMail)
-| [http://zsolxunfmbfuq7wf.onion/rc/ http://zsolxunfmbfuq7wf.onion/rc/] (Roundcube)
-|-
-! Safe-mail
-| [https://safe-mail.net/ https://safe-mail.net/]
-| No
-|-
-! TorBox
-| No
-| [http://torbox3uiot6wchz.onion/sm/src/login.php http://torbox3uiot6wchz.onion/sm/src/login.php] (SquirrelMail)
-|-
-! VFEmail
-| [https://vfemail.net/ https://vfemail.net/]
-| No
-|}
 : "In order to create a Red Account you will need an invite. Obtain an Invite Code from a friend." - https://riseup.net/en/email/settings/mail-accounts#how-do-i-create-an-email-account
-==Tasks==
+==New services==
+These new webmail services could be added to the "Recommended section in https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems :
-* Add the official names for each webmail services as a link:
+* [https://bitmessage.ch/ Bitmessage.ch] (requires Tor Browser despite not being an .onion address)
-** '''Not Recommended'''
+** Tor: [http://bitmailendavkbec.onion/roundcube Roundcube], [http://bitmailendavkbec.onion/squirrelmail SquirrelMail]
-*** [https://fastmail.fm/ FastMail]
+* [http://torbox3uiot6wchz.onion/sm/src/login.php TorBox] (SquirrelMail over Tor)
-*** [https://kolabnow.com/ Kolab Now]
-*** [https://mail.ru/ Mail.Ru]
-*** [https://www.openmailbox.org/ OpenMailBox]
-*** [https://posteo.de/ Posteo]
-*** [https://www.safe-mail.net/ Safe-mail.net]
-*** [https://mail.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Mail]
-*** [https://mail.yandex.com/ Yandex Mail]
-* Add https for http://www.openmailbox.org/
-* Add https for http://www.autistici.org/
-* Remove "www." for all entries to make it easier to sort them for the next task.
-* Sort all lists alphabetically
 ==External links==
+This link is useful because it lists if the webmails requires JS or not, and it lists privacy issues.
 * [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_webmail_providers#Digital_rights Comparison of webmail providers, digital rights (Wikipedia)]

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