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==Table==
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'''Use https://gitlab.com/ryanwhite/webmail-systems pull requests. - The page is maintained by Ryan says the FSF.'''
  
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Issue for https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems. The proper FSF email address to send this issue to is: [mailto:resources@fsf.org resources@fsf.org]
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! Webmail
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==Todo==
! Clearnet
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! Tor service
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===Urgent===
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* Add this to https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems under "Not Recommended": Apple [https://www.icloud.com/ iCloud] (@icloud.com. Old emails: @[https://me.com/ me.com], @[http://mac.com/ mac.com]<!-- not https:// -->) -- iCloud account creation requires Apple devices (either an iOS device or a Mac).
! [https://bitmessage.ch/ Bitmessage.ch]<br />(requires Tor Browser!)
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* Change "@msn.com" to "@[https://www.msn.com/ msn.com]"
| None
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* Sort Microsoft Outlook.com alphabetically in the list
| [http://bitmailendavkbec.onion/roundcube Roundcube], [http://bitmailendavkbec.onion/squirrelmail SquirrelMail]
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* Add "Tor operated: [http://grrmailb3fxpjbwm.onion/ TorGuerrillaMail] under "These disposable email services have been verified to work without proprietary JavaScript:"
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! Kolab Now
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===OpenMailBox===
| [https://kolabnow.com/ Custom]
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* https://www.openmailbox.org/why-we-were-down
| None
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* https://www.reddit.com/r/openmailbox/comments/9ffqap/what_is_happening_with_openmailbox/
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* https://www.techmansworld.com/2017/08/openmailbox-removes-imap-support-for.html
! Mail2Tor
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** IMAP status seems to be ok at https://www.openmailbox.org/service-state though. But Icedove cannot connect as described below.
| None
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| [http://mail2tor2zyjdctd.onion SquirrelMail]
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====Cannot create account====
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The "Create my account" opens the CAPTCHA each time I click on it no mattter if I've finished the CAPTCHA several times.
! [https://www.openmailbox.org/ OpenMailBox]
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| [https://www.openmailbox.org/ Custom]
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====Broken Thunderbird settings====
| None
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[I have emailed this issue to the OpenMailBox team 2019-03-20]
! Posteo
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| [https://posteo.de/ Custom]
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It's not possible to add OpenMailBox accounts in Thunderbird that displays this warning message:
| None
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<pre>
! [https://riseup.net/ Riseup][1]
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Thunderbird failed to find the settings for your email account.
| [https://mail.riseup.net/rc/ Roundcube], [https://mail.riseup.net/sm/src/login.php SquirrelMail]
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</pre>
| [http://zsolxunfmbfuq7wf.onion/rc/ Roundcube]
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I've seen this error message that also made it impossible to add an account:
! Safe-mail
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| [https://Safe-mail.net/ Custom]
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<pre>
| None
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Certificate Status
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This site attempts to identify itself with invalid information.
! TorBox
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| None
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Wrong Site
| [http://torbox3uiot6wchz.onion/sm/src/login.php SquirrelMail]
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The certificate belongs to a different site, which could mean that someone is trying to impersonate this site.
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</pre>
! VFEmail
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| [https://vfemail.net Custom]
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It's not possible to use the "Confirm Security Exception" button.
| None
 
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1: "In order to create a Red Account you will need an invite. Obtain an Invite Code from a friend." - https://riseup.net/en/email/settings/mail-accounts#how-do-i-create-an-email-account
 
  
==More==
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The "Get Certificate" button reads:
  
Issue for https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems
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<pre>
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No Information Available
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Unable to obtain identification status for this site.
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</pre>
  
* The "Recommended" section
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I guess we should move OpenMailBox under the "Under Review" section and include the above text to it.
** To this section: "Some services will let you sign up and sign in without non-free JavaScript, and use IMAP/POP3 from a desktop program, but have broken webmail:"
 
*** Mailnesia - https://mailnesia.com/
 
* The "Not Recommended" section. Add
 
** Microsoft Outlook.com
 
** Change "yahoo" to Yahoo! Mail - https://mail.yahoo.com
 
* The "Other" section
 
** SIGAINT -- add sigaintevyh2rzvw.onion to the entry (both sigaintevyh2rzvw.onion and sigaint.org was used)
 
  
==Self-hosting==
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===Riseup===
Ian: I think hosting your own mail should also be mentioned on
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Structure the links and add Tor links:  
that list. I recently transitioned to doing that, and I recommend
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* [https://riseup.net/ Riseup][1]
it. For someone else wanting to do it, I would recommend mailinabox. The
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** [https://mail.riseup.net/rc/ Roundcube], [https://mail.riseup.net/sm/src/login.php SquirrelMail]
other one people talk about is http://mailcow.email/. I did my own setup
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** Tor: [http://zsolxunfmbfuq7wf.onion/rc/ Roundcube]. See [https://riseup.net/en/security/network-security/tor#riseups-tor-onion-services Riseups Tor onion services] for email configuration
with exim and dovecot, and I forward port 25 from a remote server to my
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1: "In order to create a Red Account you will need an invite. Obtain an Invite Code from a friend." - https://riseup.net/en/email/settings/mail-accounts#how-do-i-create-an-email-account
home machine to get around the standard isp residential service port 25
 
block.
 
  
:: https://mailinabox.email/ reads: "Please note that the goal of this project is to provide a simple, turn-key solution. There are basically no configuration options and you can’t tweak the machine’s configuration files after installation. If you are looking for something more advanced, try iRedMail or Modoboa."
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==New services==
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These new webmail services could be added to the "Recommended section in https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems :
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* [https://bitmessage.ch/ Bitmessage.ch] (requires Tor Browser despite not being an .onion address)
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** Tor: [http://bitmailendavkbec.onion/roundcube Roundcube], [http://bitmailendavkbec.onion/squirrelmail SquirrelMail]
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* [http://torbox3uiot6wchz.onion/sm/src/login.php TorBox] (SquirrelMail over Tor)
  
* Mail-in-a-Box: "Mail-in-a-Box is based on Postfix, Dovecot, Z-Push, Roundcube, Nextcloud, Apache SpamAssassin, Postgrey, Nginx, @konklone’s nginx config, and more." - https://mailinabox.email/
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==External links==
* mailcow: "mailcow (formerly known as fufix) is a mail server suite based on Dovecot, Postfix and other open source software, that provides a modern Web UI for administration. In future versions mailcow will provide Cal- and CardDAV support." - https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/58855/mailcow-a-complete-mail-server-suite
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This link is useful because it lists if the webmails requires JS or not, and it lists privacy issues.
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* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_webmail_providers#Digital_rights Comparison of webmail providers, digital rights (Wikipedia)]

Latest revision as of 00:23, 8 August 2019

Use https://gitlab.com/ryanwhite/webmail-systems pull requests. - The page is maintained by Ryan says the FSF.

Issue for https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems. The proper FSF email address to send this issue to is: resources@fsf.org

Todo

Urgent

  • Add this to https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems under "Not Recommended": Apple iCloud (@icloud.com. Old emails: @me.com, @mac.com) -- iCloud account creation requires Apple devices (either an iOS device or a Mac).
  • Change "@msn.com" to "@msn.com"
  • Sort Microsoft Outlook.com alphabetically in the list
  • Add "Tor operated: TorGuerrillaMail under "These disposable email services have been verified to work without proprietary JavaScript:"

OpenMailBox

Cannot create account

The "Create my account" opens the CAPTCHA each time I click on it no mattter if I've finished the CAPTCHA several times.

Broken Thunderbird settings

[I have emailed this issue to the OpenMailBox team 2019-03-20]

It's not possible to add OpenMailBox accounts in Thunderbird that displays this warning message:

Thunderbird failed to find the settings for your email account.

I've seen this error message that also made it impossible to add an account:

Certificate Status
This site attempts to identify itself with invalid information.

Wrong Site
The certificate belongs to a different site, which could mean that someone is trying to impersonate this site.

It's not possible to use the "Confirm Security Exception" button.

The "Get Certificate" button reads:

No Information Available
Unable to obtain identification status for this site.

I guess we should move OpenMailBox under the "Under Review" section and include the above text to it.

Riseup

Structure the links and add Tor links:

1: "In order to create a Red Account you will need an invite. Obtain an Invite Code from a friend." - https://riseup.net/en/email/settings/mail-accounts#how-do-i-create-an-email-account

New services

These new webmail services could be added to the "Recommended section in https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems :

External links

This link is useful because it lists if the webmails requires JS or not, and it lists privacy issues.