Fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems

Issue for https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems

• The "Recommended" section
  • Remove SIGAINT -- Both the Tor and regular website have been taken offline.
  • Complemente Riseup
    • "Due to the numerous requests by spammers and scammers to get Riseup accounts, we are forced to use Invite Codes for all new accounts. We know that this sucks. Because we do not require a phone number or billing information, we need some alternate way to prevent abuse." - https://riseup.net/en/email/settings/mail-accounts
    • Tor service - http://j6uhdvbhz74oefxf.onion/ -- uses Roundcube
  • Mail2Tor http://mail2tor2zyjdctd.onion -- uses SquirrelMail
  • TorBox - http://torbox3uiot6wchz.onion/
  • To this section: "Some services will let you sign up and sign in without non-free JavaScript, and use IMAP/POP3 from a desktop program, but have broken webmail:"
    • Mailnesia - https://mailnesia.com/
• The "Not Recommended" section. Add
  • OpenMailBox -- used to be listed in the "Recommended" section before but then got removed without any explanation. I've heard that registration requires nonfree JS.
  • Microsoft Exchange
  • Microsoft Hotmail
  • Microsoft Live
  • Microsoft MSN
  • Microsoft Outlook.com
  • Yahoo! Mail
  • Yandex Mail

Ian: I think hosting your own mail should also be mentioned on that list. I recently transitioned to doing that, and I recommend it. For someone else wanting to do it, I would recommend mailinabox. The other one people talk about is http://mailcow.email/. I did my own setup with exim and dovecot, and I forward port 25 from a remote server to my home machine to get around the standard isp residential service port 25 block.

Bitmessage

> Bitmessage also known as Bitmessage Mail Gateway (BMG), is a service
> that allows you to use your E-Mail client (or the webmail) for sending
> and receiving Bitmessages over clearnet, Tor, and I2P.[3] This allows
> sending and receiving of email anonymously, to email addresses inside
> and outside these networks. Bitmessage.ch offers webmail, pop3, IMAP and
> SMTP access to email clients. -
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitmessage.ch#Bitmessage.ch Bitmessage is
> a decentralized, encrypted, peer-to-peer, trustless communications
> protocol that can be used by one person to send encrypted messages to
> another person, or to multiple subscribers.
>
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>
>
> -- 
> RMS: Bitmessage is no good because it won't scale, according to the
> expert I consulted.
> DBH: What do you mean with scale?
> RMS: It won't work if lots of people use it.
> -- 
> On Mon, November 9, 2015 1:50 pm, David Hedlund wrote:
> DBH: Can Bitmessage.ch be used by tens of thousands of more users?
> Bitmessage.ch: Yes. Bitmessage.ch internally operates as a regular
> e-mail system, so it
> can support many users.
> There was a time where nearly 20'000 users had registered accounts here,
> but sadly, interest in bitmessage has declined ever since.
> The bitmessage network itself is not affected by the number of users, but
> the number of messages. Scaling proposals have been made, but nothing has
> been implemented since.
> To support a lot more users, the bitmessage.ch service would need to be
> scattered across more servers. At that point, money is a problem again, as
> this is run on my personal account. Adding more servers also adds more
> cost.
-- 
> DBH: It doesn't really matter if your expert says that bitmessage.ch won't
> scale -- they have been running for years.
> RMS: What do you propose that I do or say about bitmessage?
> DBH: Can you please ask the FSF to put Bitmessage under the section "Under 
> Review" at https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems ?
> RMS: I asked the person who evaluates them.
> DBH: Thanks, that was kind of you.