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http://nextgenerationsecurememory.com/
 
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Not DRM in terms of the website, but the technology uses DRM, just as SD and SDHC and SDXC have before it. --[[User:Broam|Broam]] 13:41, 9 March 2012 (EST)
  
 
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- Amazon's DRM-free offers are still limited to the US, and so is
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- Amazon's DRM-free offers are still limited to the US, and so is Rhapsody.
Rhapsody.
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- The iTunes Music Store is not available on free operating systems and
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- The iTunes Music Store is not available on free operating systems and therefore not an option for me as a GNU/Linux user. Apple could simply open an iTunes WEB shop, and their music would be available on all platforms.
therefore not an option for me as a GNU/Linux user. Apple could simply open
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an iTunes WEB shop, and their music would be available on all platforms.
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- Napster is available (at least the mobile edition), but it still has DRM here.
- Napster is available (at least the mobile edition), but it still has DRM
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here.
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- The big Swiss download stores - e.g. exlibris.ch, i-m.ch, weltbild-downloads.ch - all have WMA-DRM. Actually none of them is very popular: I think most people use iTunes.
- The big Swiss download stores - e.g. exlibris.ch, i-m.ch,
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weltbild-downloads.ch - all have WMA-DRM. Actually none of them is very
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- 7digital looks promising, and it's available in all neighbour countries, but not here!
popular: I think most people use iTunes.
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- 7digital looks promising, and it's available in all neighbour countries,
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- eMusic appears to be available globally, so that's probably the best option. Their range of songs is somewhat limited, though.
but not here!
 
- eMusic appears to be available globally, so that's probably the best
 
option. Their range of songs is somewhat limited, though.
 
  
 
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Can we have a black list of dvd devices that are locked to a region and can
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Can we have a black list of dvd devices that are locked to a region and can not be unlocked. I have just bought a Samsund SH855 and have been to by the company that its is a hardware lock. The ACCC here in Australia says to do so is in breach of the trade practices act but they get out of it as the ACCC says there are unlocked devices on the market meaning its my fault for buying a locked one with out asking.
not be unlocked. I have just bought a Samsund SH855 and have been to by the
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company that its is a hardware lock. The ACCC here in Australia says to do
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I think we could have a page for devices, if we don't already. --[[User:Broam|Broam]] 13:41, 9 March 2012 (EST)
so is in breach of the trade practices act but they get out of it as the
 
ACCC says there are unlocked devices on the market meaning its my fault for
 
buying a locked one with out asking.
 
  
 
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Does FreeView have DRM?
 
Does FreeView have DRM?
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Notes: Not sure which FreeView. --[[User:Broam|Broam]] 13:41, 9 March 2012 (EST)
  
 
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This company wants to give out free DRM infested music and is available in 13
 
This company wants to give out free DRM infested music and is available in 13
 
countries as of now.
 
countries as of now.
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Notes: with discussion with mattl, seems to be Windows only. The TOU is pretty onerous. Have not tested, need a nice throwaway email account first. --[[User:Broam|Broam]] 13:41, 9 March 2012 (EST)
  
 
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Thanks to a combination of DRM idiocy and technical and communications
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Thanks to a combination of DRM idiocy and technical and communications failures on the part of EA and Bioware, I (along with thousands of fellow EA/Bioware customers) spent my free time this past weekend needlessly trapped in troubleshooting hell, in a vain attempt to get my single-player game to load. The problem, it turns out, was the Bioware's DRM authorization servers, and as of Tuesday afternoon, the situation still is not resolved. For four days now, those of us who made the mistake of shelling out for Dragon Age:Origins (especially the Ultimate Edition) have been unable to play the single-player game that we paid for. And the unlucky souls who bought the game on Friday haven't yet seen it work properly.
failures on the part of EA and Bioware, I (along with thousands of
 
fellow EA/Bioware customers) spent my free time this past weekend
 
needlessly trapped in troubleshooting hell, in a vain attempt to get my
 
single-player game to load. The problem, it turns out, was the Bioware's
 
DRM authorization servers, and as of Tuesday afternoon, the situation
 
still is not resolved. For four days now, those of us who made the
 
mistake of shelling out for Dragon Age:Origins (especially the Ultimate
 
Edition) have been unable to play the single-player game that we paid
 
for. And the unlucky souls who bought the game on Friday haven't yet
 
seen it work properly.
 
  
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PBS is not something that is easy for free software users to watch. This
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PBS is not something that is easy for free software users to watch. This movie, from their front page, seems to require flash and does not work with Debian Squeeze
movie, from their front page, seems to require flash and does not work with
 
Debian Squeeze
 
  
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Notes: What movie? --[[User:Broam|Broam]] 13:41, 9 March 2012 (EST)
  
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Some companies sell FLAC music and music players.
 
Some companies sell FLAC music and music players.
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http://www.archos.com/ offers FLAC Players(some devices do not support Vorbis) and DRM-free GNU/Linux tablets.
 
http://www.archos.com/ offers FLAC Players(some devices do not support Vorbis) and DRM-free GNU/Linux tablets.
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http://7digital.com/ offers FLAC encoded music.
 
http://7digital.com/ offers FLAC encoded music.
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http://ww.w.allflac.com/ is another Musicstore that sells lossless music.
 
http://ww.w.allflac.com/ is another Musicstore that sells lossless music.
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These should be listed at DefectiveByDesign and/or PlayOgg.
 
These should be listed at DefectiveByDesign and/or PlayOgg.
  
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I've been following the Defective By Design campaign since it launched. I get that Blu Ray should be boycotted because of its DRM. However, since the Blu Ray and PS3 boycott were first launched a lot has happened. The AACS DRM system has been hacked so we know its possible to do. However, because Blu Ray players require a broadband Internet connection for firmware updates and for the studios to track what we do with our players to prevent copying of films and the image constraint token to down sample video in Full HD for users with analog connections to at least 720P I can understand if there are still some concerns.
  
[[Category:DRM]]
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Now Blu Ray is evolving though to support 3D. None of the Blu Ray boycott websites cite anything wrong with Blu Ray 3D players, 3D TVs or Blu Ray 3D films. There are boycotts now over the PIPA & SOPA Internet Blacklist bills against all new media in any format however, I have to ask the PIPA/SOPA issues aside do the 3D Blu Ray flicks have a new DRM scheme for 3D versions worse than regular Blu Ray DRM? Does Blu Ray 3D have its own DRM?
[[Category:FSF]]
 
  
I've been following the Defective By Design campaign since it launched. I
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I'd like to see an update about Blu Ray 3D and a pro/con analysis for Blu Ray 3D.
get that Blu Ray should be boycotted because of its DRM. However, since the
 
Blu Ray and PS3 boycott were first launched a lot has happened. The AACS
 
DRM system has been hacked so we know its possible to do. However, because
 
Blu Ray players require a broadband Internet connection for firmware
 
updates and for the studios to track what we do with our players to prevent
 
copying of films and the image constraint token to down sample video in
 
Full HD for users with analog connections to at least 720P I can understand
 
if there are still some concerns.
 
  
Now Blu Ray is evolving though to support 3D. None of the Blu Ray boycott
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Notes: Since Blu-Ray already has DRM, it is safe to assume that Blu-Ray 3D has at least that much DRM, but we could try to find a study or two. --[[User:Broam|Broam]] 13:41, 9 March 2012 (EST)
websites cite anything wrong with Blu Ray 3D players, 3D TVs or Blu Ray 3D
 
films. There are boycotts now over the PIPA & SOPA Internet Blacklist bills
 
against all new media in any format however, I have to ask the PIPA/SOPA
 
issues aside do the 3D Blu Ray flicks have a new DRM scheme for 3D versions
 
worse than regular Blu Ray DRM? Does Blu Ray 3D have its own DRM?
 
  
I'd like to see an update about Blu Ray 3D and a pro/con analysis for Blu
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Ray 3D.
 
  
 
O'Reilly offers ebooks in a wide variety of formats without DRM.
 
O'Reilly offers ebooks in a wide variety of formats without DRM.
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http://shop.oreilly.com/category/customer-service/ebooks.do
 
http://shop.oreilly.com/category/customer-service/ebooks.do
  
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HDTracks offers high quality audio with no DRM
 
HDTracks offers high quality audio with no DRM
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https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php?file=staticpage&pagename=no_drm
 
https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php?file=staticpage&pagename=no_drm
  
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Hi DBD folks, it's probably a good idea to add Project Gutenberg [0] and
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Hi DBD folks, it's probably a good idea to add Project Gutenberg [0] and Archive.org [1] to your list of DRM-free EBook sources [2]. I don't
Archive.org [1] to your list of DRM-free EBook sources [2]. I don't
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believe any of their titles come with DRM, and I also believe that their titles are not distributed under non-free licenses (usually, if ever).
believe any of their titles come with DRM, and I also believe that their
 
titles are not distributed under non-free licenses (usually, if ever).
 
  
 
0: http://www.gutenberg.org/
 
0: http://www.gutenberg.org/
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2: http://www.defectivebydesign.org/guide/ebooks
 
2: http://www.defectivebydesign.org/guide/ebooks
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smashwords.com
 
smashwords.com
  
 
http://stophollywood.org/
 
http://stophollywood.org/
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http://freemusicarchive.org/
 
http://freemusicarchive.org/
  
 
SimplyAudiobooks.com
 
SimplyAudiobooks.com
  
== PNY advocating DRM ==
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'''PNY advocating DRM''':
  
 
http://www1.movie-promo.com/PNY-US
 
http://www1.movie-promo.com/PNY-US
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> Enter your Voucher/Redemption Code
 
> Enter your Voucher/Redemption Code
 
> Download"
 
> Download"
 
  
 
You get your download and start Windows Media Player and it downloads a
 
You get your download and start Windows Media Player and it downloads a
 
opt-in active-X DRM and updates security too.
 
opt-in active-X DRM and updates security too.
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Revision as of 14:41, 9 March 2012

This page contains suggestions for the guide as send to the DBD site by email

Add stuff here: http://libreplanet.org/wiki/GuideAdditions -- be sure to remove things from this page when you move them to the additions.

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Editors: As you investigate suggestions on this page, please sign your edits by adding the following text at the end: --~~~~

List of suggestions

"Next Generation Secure Memory Initiative (tentative name) is a collaboration of Panasonic, Samsung, SanDisk, Sony and Toshiba to license and promote HD (high-definition)-capable security for SD Cards and embedded memory for use in advanced consumer applications such as tablets and smartphones."

http://nextgenerationsecurememory.com/

Not DRM in terms of the website, but the technology uses DRM, just as SD and SDHC and SDXC have before it. --Broam 13:41, 9 March 2012 (EST)


http://www.folkways.si.edu/

According to http://www.folkways.si.edu/customer_service/download_support.aspx music is in MP3 and FLAC, with albums available in ZIP, with jpg album covers and PDF liner notes. Users have a 7-day window to download the files. The "download manager" is not a program installed on the user's machine. This looks okay by me. --Broam 18:43, 7 March 2012 (EST)


- Amazon's DRM-free offers are still limited to the US, and so is Rhapsody.

- The iTunes Music Store is not available on free operating systems and therefore not an option for me as a GNU/Linux user. Apple could simply open an iTunes WEB shop, and their music would be available on all platforms.

- Napster is available (at least the mobile edition), but it still has DRM here.

- The big Swiss download stores - e.g. exlibris.ch, i-m.ch, weltbild-downloads.ch - all have WMA-DRM. Actually none of them is very popular: I think most people use iTunes.

- 7digital looks promising, and it's available in all neighbour countries, but not here!

- eMusic appears to be available globally, so that's probably the best option. Their range of songs is somewhat limited, though.


Can we have a black list of dvd devices that are locked to a region and can not be unlocked. I have just bought a Samsund SH855 and have been to by the company that its is a hardware lock. The ACCC here in Australia says to do so is in breach of the trade practices act but they get out of it as the ACCC says there are unlocked devices on the market meaning its my fault for buying a locked one with out asking.

I think we could have a page for devices, if we don't already. --Broam 13:41, 9 March 2012 (EST)


Some Australian stores are now selling DRM-free MP3 files:

- BigPond Music (http://bigpondmusic.com) - Only available to residents of Australia. --Broam 18:41, 7 March 2012 (EST)
- Sony BMG's banit.fm (http://bandit.fm) - requires Flash, will not let you proceed without it. --Broam 18:41, 7 March 2012 (EST)
- EMI's Musichead MP3 (http://musicheadmp3.com.au). - reported as not available --Broam 18:41, 7 March 2012 (EST)

This is a nice list of DRM Free book publishers published by Liza Daly, http://blog.threepress.org/2009/11/10/list-of-drm-free-publishers/ -- she also links to other lists.


Does FreeView have DRM?

Notes: Not sure which FreeView. --Broam 13:41, 9 March 2012 (EST)


Just thought I would point out a very DRM infested company called Qtrax.com or music.qtrax.com.

This company wants to give out free DRM infested music and is available in 13 countries as of now.

Notes: with discussion with mattl, seems to be Windows only. The TOU is pretty onerous. Have not tested, need a nice throwaway email account first. --Broam 13:41, 9 March 2012 (EST)


Thanks to a combination of DRM idiocy and technical and communications failures on the part of EA and Bioware, I (along with thousands of fellow EA/Bioware customers) spent my free time this past weekend needlessly trapped in troubleshooting hell, in a vain attempt to get my single-player game to load. The problem, it turns out, was the Bioware's DRM authorization servers, and as of Tuesday afternoon, the situation still is not resolved. For four days now, those of us who made the mistake of shelling out for Dragon Age:Origins (especially the Ultimate Edition) have been unable to play the single-player game that we paid for. And the unlucky souls who bought the game on Friday haven't yet seen it work properly.


PBS is not something that is easy for free software users to watch. This movie, from their front page, seems to require flash and does not work with Debian Squeeze

Notes: What movie? --Broam 13:41, 9 March 2012 (EST)


Some companies sell FLAC music and music players.

http://www.archos.com/ offers FLAC Players(some devices do not support Vorbis) and DRM-free GNU/Linux tablets.

http://7digital.com/ offers FLAC encoded music.

http://ww.w.allflac.com/ is another Musicstore that sells lossless music.

These should be listed at DefectiveByDesign and/or PlayOgg.


I've been following the Defective By Design campaign since it launched. I get that Blu Ray should be boycotted because of its DRM. However, since the Blu Ray and PS3 boycott were first launched a lot has happened. The AACS DRM system has been hacked so we know its possible to do. However, because Blu Ray players require a broadband Internet connection for firmware updates and for the studios to track what we do with our players to prevent copying of films and the image constraint token to down sample video in Full HD for users with analog connections to at least 720P I can understand if there are still some concerns.

Now Blu Ray is evolving though to support 3D. None of the Blu Ray boycott websites cite anything wrong with Blu Ray 3D players, 3D TVs or Blu Ray 3D films. There are boycotts now over the PIPA & SOPA Internet Blacklist bills against all new media in any format however, I have to ask the PIPA/SOPA issues aside do the 3D Blu Ray flicks have a new DRM scheme for 3D versions worse than regular Blu Ray DRM? Does Blu Ray 3D have its own DRM?

I'd like to see an update about Blu Ray 3D and a pro/con analysis for Blu Ray 3D.

Notes: Since Blu-Ray already has DRM, it is safe to assume that Blu-Ray 3D has at least that much DRM, but we could try to find a study or two. --Broam 13:41, 9 March 2012 (EST)


O'Reilly offers ebooks in a wide variety of formats without DRM.

http://shop.oreilly.com/category/customer-service/ebooks.do


HDTracks offers high quality audio with no DRM

https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php?file=staticpage&pagename=no_drm

Seems to require a non-Free Download Manager in Java, but I'm not sure this is the built-in Java Download Manager or a custom Download Manager. I am still investigating. --Broam 18:56, 7 March 2012 (EST)


Hi DBD folks, it's probably a good idea to add Project Gutenberg [0] and Archive.org [1] to your list of DRM-free EBook sources [2]. I don't believe any of their titles come with DRM, and I also believe that their titles are not distributed under non-free licenses (usually, if ever).

0: http://www.gutenberg.org/

1: http://archive.org/

2: http://www.defectivebydesign.org/guide/ebooks


smashwords.com

http://stophollywood.org/

http://freemusicarchive.org/

SimplyAudiobooks.com


PNY advocating DRM:

http://www1.movie-promo.com/PNY-US

"4 Simple Steps:

> Select a movie > Register or login > Enter your Voucher/Redemption Code > Download"

You get your download and start Windows Media Player and it downloads a opt-in active-X DRM and updates security too.