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* 3D graphics require a binary blob, but you can just not use 3D graphics.
 
* 3D graphics require a binary blob, but you can just not use 3D graphics.
 
* Boot loader is u-boot. ROM source isn't open, but ROM is really ROM, in the chip, not flashable from software. There is a loader between the ROM and u-boot called x-loader, but it is based on u-boot and is free software.
 
* Boot loader is u-boot. ROM source isn't open, but ROM is really ROM, in the chip, not flashable from software. There is a loader between the ROM and u-boot called x-loader, but it is based on u-boot and is free software.
* The [http://www.alwaysinnovating.com Always Innovating Touch Book) is basically a BeagleBoard in a (*really* :-) nice case.
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* The [http://www.alwaysinnovating.com Always Innovating Touch Book] is basically a BeagleBoard in a (*really* :-) nice case.
 
* See IRC logs starting [http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/index.php?date=2009-04-14#T17:17:51 here] for more...
 
* See IRC logs starting [http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/index.php?date=2009-04-14#T17:17:51 here] for more...
  

Revision as of 13:46, 14 April 2009


Work in progress

Looks like we need some things that are on wikipedia mediawiki [1] but not here or default in 1.12 [2] for this to look good. I'm copying a lot of syntax from this wikipedia article [3].

Specifically this syntax is not working:

Footnote / reference syntax

<ref name="coreboot-on-dbe61c-usb">http://wiki.thincan.org/DBE61#Caveats states that "USB boot is not possible without highly experimental code."</ref>

Example: [1]

Template syntax

{{yes}}
{{no}}
{{rh}}

Example: style="background: #90ff90; color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center; " class="table-yes"|Yes

Please help

Please add to this list, and speak up if you see something that you know is non-free!

Desktops

Definition

These systems at minimum should have:

  • The ability to work stand-alone - no reliance on other computers being available
  • Libre boot firmware (BIOS)
  • No components that can not be replaced by a person with a screwdriver that require drivers with binary blobs to function
    • Usually wifi adapters and graphics adapters are the issues here - you can help with this if you are a hacker with appropriate skills...
  • Not make an insane amount of noise or have a form factor that is aimed at the server market

Comparison: Basic properties

Release year Approx System Price Architecture Boot firmware Wifi chipset Video chipset Links
BeagleBoard RevC2 2008 $206.30
BeagleBoard + Power Supply + Case
armel u-boot - todo todo
ThinCan DBE61C-USB 2005 $395
(for minimum of 2)
i386 coreboot
"USB boot is not possible without highly experimental code." [4]
- todo todo

Comparison: Where purchaseable and lowest-cost shipping option

World BE CN FR US
BeagleBoard RevC2 Yes $22
ThinCan DBE61C-USB Yes $125

Please use ISO Country Codes.

World indicates that there is at least one reseller that is willing to ship anywhere in the world as a standard part of their business.

Misc Notes

BeagleBoard RevC2

  • 3D graphics require a binary blob, but you can just not use 3D graphics.
  • Boot loader is u-boot. ROM source isn't open, but ROM is really ROM, in the chip, not flashable from software. There is a loader between the ROM and u-boot called x-loader, but it is based on u-boot and is free software.
  • The Always Innovating Touch Book is basically a BeagleBoard in a (*really* :-) nice case.
  • See IRC logs starting here for more...

ThinCan DBE61C-USB

Really expensive shipping.

lshw output

Output from lshw.

BeagleBoard RevC2

TODO

ThinCan DBE61C-USB

TODO

Machines to evaluate when possible

  • Lemote Fuloong Mini - not available outside of china to the general public as far as I know - might be possible to get if you are a hacker and contact them directly. Need someone who speaks a Chinese language to comment on price and availability within China (this info doesn't seem to be available in English).
  • ThinCan DBE63 - should be available in Q2 or Q3 2009.

See Also

  • http://wiki.thincan.org/DBE61#Caveats states that "USB boot is not possible without highly experimental code."