Fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems

Issue for https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems

> Key point: If both you and me can go through issues at some meeting
> there's significant greater chance that the FSF will make the changes
> compared to if I promote this with them alone! =)
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> Ok, so I've been preparing some work for
> https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems
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> Can you please revise this list some day?:
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> Both the Tor and regular website has been taken offline.
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> Mail2Tor http://mail2tor2zyjdctd.onion -- Tor site uses SquirrelMail
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> Bitmessage
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> Bitmessage also known as Bitmessage Mail Gateway (BMG), is a service
> that allows you to use your E-Mail client (or the webmail) for sending
> and receiving Bitmessages over clearnet, Tor, and I2P.[3] This allows
> sending and receiving of email anonymously, to email addresses inside
> and outside these networks. Bitmessage.ch offers webmail, pop3, IMAP and
> SMTP access to email clients. -
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitmessage.ch#Bitmessage.ch Bitmessage is
> a decentralized, encrypted, peer-to-peer, trustless communications
> protocol that can be used by one person to send encrypted messages to
> another person, or to multiple subscribers.
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> -- 
> RMS: Bitmessage is no good because it won't scale, according to the
> expert I consulted.
> DBH: What do you mean with scale?
> RMS: It won't work if lots of people use it.
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> On Mon, November 9, 2015 1:50 pm, David Hedlund wrote:
> DBH: Can Bitmessage.ch be used by tens of thousands of more users?
> Bitmessage.ch: Yes. Bitmessage.ch internally operates as a regular
> e-mail system, so it
> can support many users.
> There was a time where nearly 20'000 users had registered accounts here,
> but sadly, interest in bitmessage has declined ever since.
> The bitmessage network itself is not affected by the number of users, but
> the number of messages. Scaling proposals have been made, but nothing has
> been implemented since.
> To support a lot more users, the bitmessage.ch service would need to be
> scattered across more servers. At that point, money is a problem again, as
> this is run on my personal account. Adding more servers also adds more
> cost.
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> DBH: It doesn't really matter if your expert says that bitmessage.ch won't
> scale -- they have been running for years.
> RMS: What do you propose that I do or say about bitmessage?
> DBH: Can you please ask the FSF to put Bitmessage under the section "Under 
> Review" at https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems ?
> RMS: I asked the person who evaluates them.
> DBH: Thanks, that was kind of you.

Ian: Interesting. I think hosting your own mail should also be mentioned on
that list. I recently transitioned to doing that, and I recommend
it. For someone else wanting to do it, I would recommend mailinabox. The
other one people talk about is http://mailcow.email/. I did my own setup
with exim and dovecot, and I forward port 25 from a remote server to my
home machine to get around the standard isp residential service port 25
block.

# More encrypted communication

Beside https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems we should ask the FSF to make a separate page for non-email encrypted communication. Good software includes but are not limited to:

* Cryptocat
* Mailpile
* TorChat