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Salutations in other languages (than English)

What is the general policy on how a user is greeted? It seems to be inconsistent at present, e.g. Dutch=informal, French=formal (main page).


Usability feedback and Groups

When I saw a comment on Talk:GNU Generation, I went looking for the PlayOgg page. What I tried:

  1. manually type in http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/PlayOgg - blank page
  2. go to Main Page and use browser's find function for "playogg" - not there
  3. clicked the "… further results" link at the bottom of the "My Group" box on the front page, then clicked the "500" so that I see all entries; use browser's find function for "playogg" - not there
  4. Put "playogg" into the search box in the left-hand side of page - no hits
  5. Scrolled down a little on the search results page and saw a "Groups" box, ticked it, and clicked "Search" - still no hits
  6. Repeated the previous step but this time I scrolled down further and saw there's a second, separate button for "Advanced search", clicked that - Bingo! Group:PlayOgg

But had I not seen the comment on Talk:GNU Generation, and if I wasn't a regular wiki user, I wouldn't have found it. The failure of the second last step is a MediaWiki usability problem, probably not simple to fix. Some ideas for reducing the other problems:

  • PlayOgg should be made a #REDIRECT to Group:PlayOgg, and equivalent for all other groups
  • The MediaWiki search facility should include "Group" in its searches by default, instead of just "(Main)"
  • Maybe the Main Page should somehow offer quick/direct access to the things/groups people are most likely to come looking for
  • Maybe pages like Group:PlayOgg should be in Category:Group so that they appear when people click the "… further results" link at the bottom of the "My Group" box on the front page

Other ideas on improving intuitivity? Ciaran 01:42, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with all those suggestions. I'd noticed the searching problem as well. I think maybe we can change that in our defaults. For right now, I'll ask about fixing the search, and I'll work on putting the groups into the group category. I'm hoping that Semantic MediaWiki will also help with this, because we will give pages properties that indicate that they are groups. --Johns 16:18, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
The search issue is finally fixed. It will now look in the Group namespace by default, so that should go a long way toward helping people find things. We are also working on adding the [[is entity::group]] property to all the groups. I've added a link to what will be a full Group list to the front page as well. Johns 17:02, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


Where do I list my new page?

I've made this page:

It isn't a group and doesn't need a group to form around it, and it isn't an essay either. It's just part of the wiki - an article, which I'll improve from time to time and I hope other transients will too. Does this wiki have a section for normal wiki pages :-) ? Ciaran 20:23, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

And this page:
Should I make a box on the Main Page for these pages?
Maybe the wiki needs a sitemap? The structure of this wiki seems to be missing something. It doesn't have the organic growth model, or the interconnectedness of other wikis. Is it possible that an over emphasis on Groups is harming the structure? Maybe a mixed Groups+normal_pages model would be better? Ciaran 17:26, 26 August 2012 (EDT)
And this:
. Ciaran 13:55, 4 November 2012 (EST)

Pages I made - happy home sought

I've still no idea where to link to these pages:

. Ciaran 01:10, 22 January 2013 (EST) (UPDATED)

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