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=LibrePlanet Logo Use=
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The purpose is to keep this discussion page with basic instructions on how to maintain the wiki. There is also a to-do list for improvement.
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Hi I'm Aris
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== [SUGGESTION] Placing important links at the front page? ==
  
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I'm currently organizing the LibrePlanet Group
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How about putting several important LibrePlanet links on the front page to make discovery easier? Featured pages are excellent, but they are not enough to convey more about what resources available at LibrePlanet website. Excellent examples given by The GNU Project website are that they do so. For example, the most important ones are Free Software Definition and GNU/Linux Distros Download at the bottom, while About, Education and Philosophy at the top. These make GNU.org very easy to navigate, access and understand -- it improves discoverability. I suggest LibrePlanet also put important pages on front page, for example:
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Part of our invitation and recruitment  is to have a t-shirt give away using our LibrePlanet logo.
 
  
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I want to ask permission to the group to use it in any material that we may need in and I tried to email info @ fsf and some LibrePlanet member but still I don't receive any feedback so with my best knowledge and objective with the group. I'm going to use the logo in our material for the purpose of advocating "Free Software".
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* Laptops Comparison: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Hardware/Laptops_Comparison
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* End Software Patent https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:End_Software_Patents
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* Nonfree software blacklist https://libreplanet.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_does_not_respect_the_Free_System_Distribution_Guidelines
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* Fight to Repair https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:FSF/Fight-to-Repair
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* Windows 7 Sins https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Windows_7_Sins
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* Open Document Format https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:OpenDocument
  
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Regards,
 
  
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[Update] I recieve Email from Matt Lee and everything is good to go. Thanks Matt.
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'''Suggestion applied''' to the main page of the LibrePlanet Wiki. Thank you very much for contributing your suggestions!
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- [[User:Kaiod|Kaiod]] ([[User talk:Kaiod|talk]]) 11:07, 26 February 2022 (EST)
  
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=Main page grouped by continents?=
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== Design Guidelines ==
  
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Hi , Here Ananth ,
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Design guidelines are basically references to existing documentation below. We will need to avoid using Tables to ensure an accessible and responsive portal for mobile devices.
  
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It is Great Moment , I Inspired by Richards Philosophy ,
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* SVG Logo: https://libreplanet.org/w/skins/Tweeki/custom/lp-logo.svg
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* UI theme mockup: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Libreplanet-theme-mediawiki
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* Theme doc: https://tweeki.thai-land.at/wiki/Welcome
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* Edit CSS on https://libreplanet.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Tweeki.css
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* Edit Nav on https://libreplanet.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Tweeki-navbar-left (right/brand)
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* Components ref: https://getbootstrap.com/docs/4.3/components/alerts/
  
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we need freedom to do some thing ,
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== Navigation proposal ==
  
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[[File:Libreplanet-nav.png|class=img-responsive]]
  
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Thanks and regards,
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This is an initial framework for portal navigation. Following this structure, we can keep a "site map" documented here as a basic reference for organizing content.
  
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Ananth , Kiran Kumar
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== To-Do List ==
  
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* Involve as many people as possible to test the new theme.
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* Collaborate on article structure review and translation
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* Refresh local organizations page and propose default template
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* Propose a default template for user profile
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* Structure the teams
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* Structure the events
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* ...
  
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=Content and Purpose=
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The current event and community project pages are intended for, well events and projects. Apparently there is a conflict between the high traffic main page and suitable placement on other pages, potentially causing an edit war.
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Clearly, we need to arrive at an agreement and avoid giving the wrong message to other groups (all parties involved are FSF, I believe). Since the issue is about content, this is a good place to discuss it.
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Note: if you edit this page, please sign your edit with 4 tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> [[User:Iank|Iank]] ([[User talk:Iank|talk]]) 15:20, 25 June 2018 (EDT)
  
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To avoid escalating the situation, I have not removed the event link, but believe the one on the current events page is sufficient. There is no apparent culture here, so we should be careful what foundation we provide. Personally, I am trying to expand the wiki and realize it will take time before other users start exploring it again. However, the LibrePlanet event can assist in this process.
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== Where do I list my new page? ==
  
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The [[Project:LibrePlanet|Libre Planet project]] is specifically for webmasters to lay down the law and everyone else to comment on it. The [[LibrePlanet| Libre Planet]] group is intended specifically for the FSF to provide resource materials for Libre Planet, group networking, and upcomming FSF events.
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I've made this page:
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* [[When should firmware be free]]
  
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The ugly banner I added intentionally focuses on the other pages, to create public awareness because they now have important content.
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It isn't a group and doesn't need a group to form around it, and it isn't an essay either.  It's just part of the wiki - an article, which I'll improve from time to time and I hope other transients will too.  Does this wiki have a section for normal wiki pages :-) ? [[User:Ciaran|Ciaran]] 20:23, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
  
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All I have done has been with the best intentions and ability. If I have offended anyone by my actions, I apologize. [[User:Blacky|Blacky]] 07:17, 10 February 2009 (EST)
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:And this page:
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:* [[Governments developing free software]]
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:Should I make a box on the [[Main Page]] for these pages?
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:Maybe the wiki needs a sitemap?  The structure of this wiki seems to be missing something.  It doesn't have the organic growth model, or the interconnectedness of other wikis. Is it possible that an over emphasis on Groups is harming the structure?  Maybe a mixed Groups+normal_pages model would be better?  [[User:Ciaran|Ciaran]] 17:26, 26 August 2012 (EDT)
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::And this:
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::* [[When is digital inclusion good?]]
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::. [[User:Ciaran|Ciaran]] 13:55, 4 November 2012 (EST)
  
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= Usability feedback and Groups =
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== Pages I made - happy home sought ==
  
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When I saw a comment on [[Talk:GNU Generation]], I went looking for the PlayOgg page.  What I tried:
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I've still no idea where to link to these pages:
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# manually type in http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/PlayOgg - blank page
 
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# go to [[Main Page]] and use browser's find function for "playogg" - not there
 
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# clicked the "… further results" link at the bottom of the "My Group" box on the front page, then [http://groups.fsf.org/wiki?title=Special:Ask&offset=0&limit=500&q=[[Category%3AGroup]]&p=format%3Dbroadtable&order=ASC clicked the "500" so that I see all entries]; use browser's find function for "playogg" - not there
 
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# Put "playogg" into the search box in the left-hand side of page - no hits
 
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# Scrolled down a little on the search results page and saw a "Groups" box, ticked it, and clicked "Search" - still no hits
 
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# Repeated the previous step but this time I scrolled down further and saw there's a second, separate button for "Advanced search", clicked that - Bingo! [[Group:PlayOgg]]
 
  
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But had I not seen the comment on [[Talk:GNU Generation]], and if I wasn't a regular wiki user, I wouldn't have found it.  The failure of the second last step is a MediaWiki usability problem, probably not simple to fix.  Some ideas for reducing the other problems:
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* [[Good and bad licence changes]]
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* [[When is digital inclusion good?]]
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* [[Governments developing free software]]
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* [[Programming in elisp]]
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* [[Programming in Scheme]]
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* [[Programming in c]]
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* [[When should firmware be free]]
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* [[Projects to free phones and handheld computers]]
  
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* [[PlayOgg]] should be made a #REDIRECT to [[Group:PlayOgg]], and equivalent for all other groups
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. [[User:Ciaran|Ciaran]] 01:10, 22 January 2013 (EST) (UPDATED)
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* The MediaWiki search facility should include "Group" in its searches by default, instead of just "(Main)"
 
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* Maybe the [[Main Page]] should somehow offer quick/direct access to the things/groups people are most likely to come looking for
 
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* Maybe pages like [[Group:PlayOgg]] should be in [[:Category:Group]] so that they appear when people click the "… further results" link at the bottom of the "My Group" box on the front page
 
  
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Other ideas on improving intuitivity? [[User:Ciaran|Ciaran]] 01:42, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
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:I agree with all those suggestions. I'd noticed the searching problem as well. I think maybe we can change that in our defaults. For right now, I'll ask about fixing the search, and I'll work on putting the groups into the group category. I'm hoping that Semantic MediaWiki will also help with this, because we will give pages properties that indicate that they are groups. --[[User:Johns|Johns]] 16:18, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 
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::The search issue is finally fixed. It will now look in the Group namespace by default, so that should go a long way toward helping people find things. We are also working on adding the <nowiki>[[is entity::group]]</nowiki> property to all the groups. I've added a link to what will be a full [[Group list]] to the front page as well. [[User:Johns|Johns]] 17:02, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 
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= Turn the Free Software Directory into a wiki? =
 
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The FSF's [http://directory.fsf.org/ Free Software Directory] is quite out of date. I think a wiki construct would serve much better as several people could change facts as they happen. Most pieces of free software are not notable enough by the standards of Wikipedia and thus not included there. 3rd party information on free software programs would likely be very useful for the multitude of use cases there are and will be. Do you agree? [[User:Mviinama|Mviinama]] 12:19, 24 November 2010 (EST)
 
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:We're working on that right now :). [[User:Johns|Johns]] 19:14, 24 November 2010 (EST)
 
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::How is it coming along? Can we help? [[User:Mviinama|Mviinama]] 07:08, 30 May 2011 (EDT)
 
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= Create a presentations/tutorials repository =
 
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Maybe the wiki could serve as some kind of repository for uploading tutorials or presentations for free software speeches. This way people may easily find info if they want to organize something about free software. [[User:Zuarko|Zuarko]] 23:54, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 
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This is what I get. How come? [[User:Mviinama|Mviinama]] 09:29, 26 July 2011 (EDT)
 

Latest revision as of 15:29, 4 January 2024

[SUGGESTION] Placing important links at the front page?

How about putting several important LibrePlanet links on the front page to make discovery easier? Featured pages are excellent, but they are not enough to convey more about what resources available at LibrePlanet website. Excellent examples given by The GNU Project website are that they do so. For example, the most important ones are Free Software Definition and GNU/Linux Distros Download at the bottom, while About, Education and Philosophy at the top. These make GNU.org very easy to navigate, access and understand -- it improves discoverability. I suggest LibrePlanet also put important pages on front page, for example:


Suggestion applied to the main page of the LibrePlanet Wiki. Thank you very much for contributing your suggestions! - Kaiod (talk) 11:07, 26 February 2022 (EST)

Design Guidelines

Design guidelines are basically references to existing documentation below. We will need to avoid using Tables to ensure an accessible and responsive portal for mobile devices.

Navigation proposal

Libreplanet-nav.png

This is an initial framework for portal navigation. Following this structure, we can keep a "site map" documented here as a basic reference for organizing content.

To-Do List

  • Involve as many people as possible to test the new theme.
  • Collaborate on article structure review and translation
  • Refresh local organizations page and propose default template
  • Propose a default template for user profile
  • Structure the teams
  • Structure the events
  • ...

Talk archived


Note: if you edit this page, please sign your edit with 4 tildes: ~~~~ Iank (talk) 15:20, 25 June 2018 (EDT)

Where do I list my new page?

I've made this page:

It isn't a group and doesn't need a group to form around it, and it isn't an essay either. It's just part of the wiki - an article, which I'll improve from time to time and I hope other transients will too. Does this wiki have a section for normal wiki pages :-) ? Ciaran 20:23, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

And this page:
Should I make a box on the Main Page for these pages?
Maybe the wiki needs a sitemap? The structure of this wiki seems to be missing something. It doesn't have the organic growth model, or the interconnectedness of other wikis. Is it possible that an over emphasis on Groups is harming the structure? Maybe a mixed Groups+normal_pages model would be better? Ciaran 17:26, 26 August 2012 (EDT)
And this:
. Ciaran 13:55, 4 November 2012 (EST)

Pages I made - happy home sought

I've still no idea where to link to these pages:

. Ciaran 01:10, 22 January 2013 (EST) (UPDATED)


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