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Note: if you edit this page, please sign your edit with 4 tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> [[User:Iank|Iank]] ([[User talk:Iank|talk]]) 15:20, 25 June 2018 (EDT)
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The purpose is to keep this discussion page with basic instructions on how to maintain the wiki. There is also a to-do list for improvement.
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== [SUGGESTION] Placing important links at the front page? ==
  
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How about putting several important LibrePlanet links on the front page to make discovery easier? Featured pages are excellent, but they are not enough to convey more about what resources available at LibrePlanet website. Excellent examples given by The GNU Project website are that they do so. For example, the most important ones are Free Software Definition and GNU/Linux Distros Download at the bottom, while About, Education and Philosophy at the top. These make GNU.org very easy to navigate, access and understand -- it improves discoverability. I suggest LibrePlanet also put important pages on front page, for example:
  
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* Laptops Comparison: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Hardware/Laptops_Comparison
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* End Software Patent https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:End_Software_Patents
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* Nonfree software blacklist https://libreplanet.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_does_not_respect_the_Free_System_Distribution_Guidelines
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* Fight to Repair https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:FSF/Fight-to-Repair
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* Windows 7 Sins https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Windows_7_Sins
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* Open Document Format https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:OpenDocument
  
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==Salutations in other languages (than English)==
 
  
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What is the general policy on how a user is greeted? It seems to be inconsistent at present, e.g. Dutch=informal, French=formal (main page).
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'''Suggestion applied''' to the main page of the LibrePlanet Wiki. Thank you very much for contributing your suggestions!
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- [[User:Kaiod|Kaiod]] ([[User talk:Kaiod|talk]]) 11:07, 26 February 2022 (EST)
  
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== Design Guidelines ==
  
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Design guidelines are basically references to existing documentation below. We will need to avoid using Tables to ensure an accessible and responsive portal for mobile devices.
  
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== Usability feedback and Groups ==
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* SVG Logo: https://libreplanet.org/w/skins/Tweeki/custom/lp-logo.svg
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* UI theme mockup: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Libreplanet-theme-mediawiki
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* Theme doc: https://tweeki.thai-land.at/wiki/Welcome
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* Edit CSS on https://libreplanet.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Tweeki.css
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* Edit Nav on https://libreplanet.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Tweeki-navbar-left (right/brand)
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* Components ref: https://getbootstrap.com/docs/4.3/components/alerts/
  
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When I saw a comment on [[Talk:GNU Generation]], I went looking for the PlayOgg page.  What I tried:
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== Navigation proposal ==
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# manually type in http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/PlayOgg - blank page
 
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# go to [[Main Page]] and use browser's find function for "playogg" - not there
 
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# clicked the "… further results" link at the bottom of the "My Group" box on the front page, then [http://groups.fsf.org/wiki?title==Special:Ask&offset==0&limit==500&q==[[Category%3AGroup]]&p==format%3Dbroadtable&order==ASC clicked the "500" so that I see all entries]; use browser's find function for "playogg" - not there
 
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# Put "playogg" into the search box in the left-hand side of page - no hits
 
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# Scrolled down a little on the search results page and saw a "Groups" box, ticked it, and clicked "Search" - still no hits
 
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# Repeated the previous step but this time I scrolled down further and saw there's a second, separate button for "Advanced search", clicked that - Bingo! [[Group:PlayOgg]]
 
  
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But had I not seen the comment on [[Talk:GNU Generation]], and if I wasn't a regular wiki user, I wouldn't have found it.  The failure of the second last step is a MediaWiki usability problem, probably not simple to fix.  Some ideas for reducing the other problems:
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[[File:Libreplanet-nav.png|class=img-responsive]]
  
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* [[PlayOgg]] should be made a #REDIRECT to [[Group:PlayOgg]], and equivalent for all other groups
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This is an initial framework for portal navigation. Following this structure, we can keep a "site map" documented here as a basic reference for organizing content.
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* The MediaWiki search facility should include "Group" in its searches by default, instead of just "(Main)"
 
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* Maybe the [[Main Page]] should somehow offer quick/direct access to the things/groups people are most likely to come looking for
 
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* Maybe pages like [[Group:PlayOgg]] should be in [[:Category:Group]] so that they appear when people click the "… further results" link at the bottom of the "My Group" box on the front page
 
  
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Other ideas on improving intuitivity? [[User:Ciaran|Ciaran]] 01:42, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
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== To-Do List ==
  
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:I agree with all those suggestions. I'd noticed the searching problem as well. I think maybe we can change that in our defaults. For right now, I'll ask about fixing the search, and I'll work on putting the groups into the group category. I'm hoping that Semantic MediaWiki will also help with this, because we will give pages properties that indicate that they are groups. --[[User:Johns|Johns]] 16:18, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
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* Involve as many people as possible to test the new theme.
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::The search issue is finally fixed. It will now look in the Group namespace by default, so that should go a long way toward helping people find things. We are also working on adding the <nowiki>[[is entity::group]]</nowiki> property to all the groups. I've added a link to what will be a full [[Group list]] to the front page as well. [[User:Johns|Johns]] 17:02, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
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* Collaborate on article structure review and translation
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* Refresh local organizations page and propose default template
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* Propose a default template for user profile
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* Structure the teams
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* Structure the events
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* ...
  
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Note: if you edit this page, please sign your edit with 4 tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> [[User:Iank|Iank]] ([[User talk:Iank|talk]]) 15:20, 25 June 2018 (EDT)
  
 
== Where do I list my new page? ==
 
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::. [[User:Ciaran|Ciaran]] 13:55, 4 November 2012 (EST)
 
::. [[User:Ciaran|Ciaran]] 13:55, 4 November 2012 (EST)
  
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==Pages I made - happy home sought==
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== Pages I made - happy home sought ==
  
 
I've still no idea where to link to these pages:
 
I've still no idea where to link to these pages:
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. [[User:Ciaran|Ciaran]] 01:10, 22 January 2013 (EST) (UPDATED)
 
. [[User:Ciaran|Ciaran]] 01:10, 22 January 2013 (EST) (UPDATED)
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Latest revision as of 15:29, 4 January 2024

[SUGGESTION] Placing important links at the front page?

How about putting several important LibrePlanet links on the front page to make discovery easier? Featured pages are excellent, but they are not enough to convey more about what resources available at LibrePlanet website. Excellent examples given by The GNU Project website are that they do so. For example, the most important ones are Free Software Definition and GNU/Linux Distros Download at the bottom, while About, Education and Philosophy at the top. These make GNU.org very easy to navigate, access and understand -- it improves discoverability. I suggest LibrePlanet also put important pages on front page, for example:


Suggestion applied to the main page of the LibrePlanet Wiki. Thank you very much for contributing your suggestions! - Kaiod (talk) 11:07, 26 February 2022 (EST)

Design Guidelines

Design guidelines are basically references to existing documentation below. We will need to avoid using Tables to ensure an accessible and responsive portal for mobile devices.

Navigation proposal

Libreplanet-nav.png

This is an initial framework for portal navigation. Following this structure, we can keep a "site map" documented here as a basic reference for organizing content.

To-Do List

  • Involve as many people as possible to test the new theme.
  • Collaborate on article structure review and translation
  • Refresh local organizations page and propose default template
  • Propose a default template for user profile
  • Structure the teams
  • Structure the events
  • ...

Talk archived


Note: if you edit this page, please sign your edit with 4 tildes: ~~~~ Iank (talk) 15:20, 25 June 2018 (EDT)

Where do I list my new page?

I've made this page:

It isn't a group and doesn't need a group to form around it, and it isn't an essay either. It's just part of the wiki - an article, which I'll improve from time to time and I hope other transients will too. Does this wiki have a section for normal wiki pages :-) ? Ciaran 20:23, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

And this page:
Should I make a box on the Main Page for these pages?
Maybe the wiki needs a sitemap? The structure of this wiki seems to be missing something. It doesn't have the organic growth model, or the interconnectedness of other wikis. Is it possible that an over emphasis on Groups is harming the structure? Maybe a mixed Groups+normal_pages model would be better? Ciaran 17:26, 26 August 2012 (EDT)
And this:
. Ciaran 13:55, 4 November 2012 (EST)

Pages I made - happy home sought

I've still no idea where to link to these pages:

. Ciaran 01:10, 22 January 2013 (EST) (UPDATED)


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